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from ryan earlier. >> i was a little bit confused yesterday, congressman, when mitt romney was talking about the tax cuts he was invisioning, they would not be as big as you think, when you factor out you know, how we would phase out exemptions and allowances and deductions it may not be the big tax cut a lot of people were looking forward to. is he trying to brace us for some bette bitter news. >> no, lower tax rate, triggers economic growth, when people ask about, whose tax loopholes are you go after? we say by closing tax shelters for higher income earners, that allows us to lower tax rates for everyone. middle income tax payers get higher take home pay, businesses get lower tax rates that helps theme compete globally, and create job, by denying tax shelters to hire income earning that means we can lower tax rates on everyone without losing revenue, we get more revenue because we continue will glow the economy, these kinds of pro growth tax reforms, ronald reagan and tip o'neill did it, we are proposing it that a pro growth sleuth t solution to gete back to work. neil: left out but
from ryan earlier. >> i was a little bit confused yesterday, congressman, when mitt romney was talking about the tax cuts he was invisioning, they would not be as big as you think, when you factor out you know, how we would phase out exemptions and allowances and deductions it may not be the big tax cut a lot of people were looking forward to. is he trying to brace us for some bette bitter news. >> no, lower tax rate, triggers economic growth, when people ask about, whose tax...
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he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the american people need to decide for themselves. >> take it in the reverse, how often, you could say in not so friendly democracies, america over the years may have gotten involved in leadership elections, but in some of the most friendly allies, how often do american presidents do that? >> they generally stand back, let the american people make a decision. in fact, at this time which is a volatile time in that part of the world, what is also striking to me is that this gives president obama cover to some degree, not just on the iran issue. >> take
he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrably in the american election this time with the kinds of statements he has been making, positions he has been taking. he is imposing himself on what the...
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mitt romney campaign is never going to cut and run from mitt romney. but couldn't the superpacs at some point if the polls stay the way they areust decide mitt romney is running an unwinnable campaign, their money might be better spent in down-ballot caaigns? tupercsthr political triage there's an option to cut mitt romney loose. joining us now for "the interview," an evil dark money overlord named bill burton, a senior strategist for the pro-obama superpac, prioriti usa action. rell, it's good to have u >> overlord is such a dirty word. >> it sounds better than it looks. it looks nice. then you say it out loud. >> i don't think it looks nice, either. >> did i get the basic point right there about, about the money -- money outside the campaigns, money you've been ind di it's at a disadvantage. you have to pay more for your ad time? >> the campaigns pay a much cheaper rate than the superpacs are able to pay. the republican side, karl rove and the koch brothersave hundreds of millions of dollars eydoann p awayins have an impact. the truth is the campaign
mitt romney campaign is never going to cut and run from mitt romney. but couldn't the superpacs at some point if the polls stay the way they areust decide mitt romney is running an unwinnable campaign, their money might be better spent in down-ballot caaigns? tupercsthr political triage there's an option to cut mitt romney loose. joining us now for "the interview," an evil dark money overlord named bill burton, a senior strategist for the pro-obama superpac, prioriti usa action. rell,...
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that's where mitt romney has a very big league 58-38 percent. back to you guys. >> interesting numbers. we could keep that up there for a while. >> look whose talking is what bill clinton is talking about. talking point memo bill o'reilly discusses why like ability is so important and debates are going to be crucial for both candidates. >> there are two kinds of voters in america those who know what the issues are those who don't. for the uninformed casual voert emotion drives the decision and part of that equation is like ability. many historians belief ronald reagan defeated jimmy carter because he came across as likeable while carter was distant. same thing with clinton and the younger clinton had like ability. the younger remain personally popular until the resignificance kicked in. right now in a popularity poll president obama is ahead of mitt rom flee by 3 points according to a new fox news survey. after the debates that could change dramatically. romney and obama realize they must seem like the nice guy that's why they go on entertainmen
that's where mitt romney has a very big league 58-38 percent. back to you guys. >> interesting numbers. we could keep that up there for a while. >> look whose talking is what bill clinton is talking about. talking point memo bill o'reilly discusses why like ability is so important and debates are going to be crucial for both candidates. >> there are two kinds of voters in america those who know what the issues are those who don't. for the uninformed casual voert emotion drives...
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i'm mitt romney and i approved this message. sort of. about how i think michael is this election over i don't know it's absolutely not over but that was that was a very good ad by the democrats because it was a d.n.c. ad this is a problem for romney i think he he's what is the this that you're describing though that the truth you have the fact of the fact that he is he's made these comments he's shown sort of who he is i guess when that when he thought the cameras were off and and the eye of the public was off him and it's very similar in a way to the comments that president obama made in roanoke virginia when you know later in the end of the campaign day and he said you know you didn't build that somebody else made that happen he was toast to the bridges and roads and exactly was talking to bill bradley was that he was not talking about research it was specifically he was talking broadly about but about the sentence was bridges on the road somebody said if you don't go the point is that we have two candidates for president right now who
i'm mitt romney and i approved this message. sort of. about how i think michael is this election over i don't know it's absolutely not over but that was that was a very good ad by the democrats because it was a d.n.c. ad this is a problem for romney i think he he's what is the this that you're describing though that the truth you have the fact of the fact that he is he's made these comments he's shown sort of who he is i guess when that when he thought the cameras were off and and the eye of...
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i support mitt romney. >> i'm mitt romney, and a prove this message. >> sean: anytime you run an ad and you get more on the other party supporting you, that's got to be a good ad, right, by definition? >> exactly. and what was powerful there is you've got real people. i mean this guy -- the grit on his face, and what they have to go through in mining coal, it was the kind of ad that relates to hard working working class voters, people from places like ohio and michigan. sean, the only question i have, because the ads are powerful right now, and that was a good one, why did they wait till the third week of september to start running that ad? that i don't understand. >> sean: good point, good question. obama, back to class warfare. not one of us attacking romney for his wealth, which let's see if it resonates. i don't think it will. i haven't seen the dials yet. let's take a look. >> i'm barack obama. a prove this message. >> seen these new ads where mitt romney says he's a friend of coal country? this is the guy who wants to keep tax breaks for companies that ship american jobs overseas.
i support mitt romney. >> i'm mitt romney, and a prove this message. >> sean: anytime you run an ad and you get more on the other party supporting you, that's got to be a good ad, right, by definition? >> exactly. and what was powerful there is you've got real people. i mean this guy -- the grit on his face, and what they have to go through in mining coal, it was the kind of ad that relates to hard working working class voters, people from places like ohio and michigan. sean,...
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is mitt romney in pennsylvania because he thinks there's a chance? how important is winning pennsylvania to him? >> pennsylvania is one of several battleground states in this election and it comes town really to a handful of states including ohio and florida and of course pennsylvania and virginia. the undecided vote so far is very small, but let's keep in mind at this stage ronald reagan in 1980 was running about five points behind jimmy carter. by mid october, he was 13 points behind and yet he won the election by nine points. >> what do you think will be that catalyst for swinging things in mitt romney's favor? >> a strong debate by mitt romney. there are three of them coming up. a misstep by the president. some sort of international incident to thinks that might come out about benghazi, et cetera. i mean, six weeks is a very long time. we have 39 days to go. >> it's fascinating how much pressure seems to be on mitt romney including put by himself and his own camp on these debates. we haven't necessarily seen him perform well under pressure, when
is mitt romney in pennsylvania because he thinks there's a chance? how important is winning pennsylvania to him? >> pennsylvania is one of several battleground states in this election and it comes town really to a handful of states including ohio and florida and of course pennsylvania and virginia. the undecided vote so far is very small, but let's keep in mind at this stage ronald reagan in 1980 was running about five points behind jimmy carter. by mid october, he was 13 points behind...
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today romney lost this argument. the beareu of labor statistics bsntm h 01a prision tots march of this year. the revised number includes an additional 386,000 jobs. this meansore than 5 million jobs have been added since president obama took office. the bottom line here? there are more jobs now than when the presidentook er for ge wshjay 2009. this has been one of romney's main attacks on the president. and now, it's off the table. romney isn't in a position where he can afford to lose any of his weapons. i think he's scramblin ti all the polls show that. on a personal note i can't wait for the debates. one of the lines being used by the republicans right now, the conservatives is that mitt romney is just this great debater. i mean, he is a great debater. can somebody remind the american peopleand ll do it right twee ary si president obama, let me remind you, is a fierce competitor. he will be prepared. he knows his material. he knows who he is. he knows his accomplishments and he knows exactly where he wants to take
today romney lost this argument. the beareu of labor statistics bsntm h 01a prision tots march of this year. the revised number includes an additional 386,000 jobs. this meansore than 5 million jobs have been added since president obama took office. the bottom line here? there are more jobs now than when the presidentook er for ge wshjay 2009. this has been one of romney's main attacks on the president. and now, it's off the table. romney isn't in a position where he can afford to lose any of...
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romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand they're down six, seven, eight points. and they're down right now in north carolina, a state they were ahead in and not so long ago. it makes you think that newt gingrich is right, mitt romney needs to turn in a great performance in the first debate, or else the window starts closing. >> this is very clear. you get several big opportunities as a candidate to make your mark. the announcement of your running mate. your convention. and then the debates. and the reality is that mitt romney is not seized on those first two events.
romney 44. chuck? >> the one thing i've heard on this poll is democrats are arguing that northern virginia was under represented in the poll. that said, i mean we're talking a difference of a point or two. if you will. and it's sort of in the range of what you hear where virginia is anywhere from two to five points so the number was not surprising. >> chuck todd, david gregory, you look at all of these polls and, david, look at the fact, in ohio, even the romney people understand...
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get amica owinagai >> romney's spokesperson andrea sal lead out the official romney line on msnbc today. >> haven't created a single net new job. >> that was september 4th. excuse me. today romneyost thiargunt thr oor statistics announced a provision to its jobs count from march of 2011 to march of this year. the revised number includes an additional 386,000 jobs. this means more than 5 mlion jobs have been added since presenama ok fice th bin here? there are more jobs now than when the president took over for george w. bush in january of 2009. this has been one of romney's main attacks on the president. and now, it's off the table. romney isn't in a position where he canordoose ais weapons. i think he's scrambling big-time. all the polls show that. on a personal note i can't wait for the debates. one of the lines being used by the republicans right now, the conservatives is that mitt romney is just this great mehea t debater. can somebody remind the american people, and i'll do it right now, that we have a smart guy on our side? president obama, let me remind you, is a fierce competito
get amica owinagai >> romney's spokesperson andrea sal lead out the official romney line on msnbc today. >> haven't created a single net new job. >> that was september 4th. excuse me. today romneyost thiargunt thr oor statistics announced a provision to its jobs count from march of 2011 to march of this year. the revised number includes an additional 386,000 jobs. this means more than 5 mlion jobs have been added since presenama ok fice th bin here? there are more jobs now...
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romney leads by one. but on government spending, this is really amazing, mitt romney leads by 17 points. does he need to exploit that? >> well, yeah, i think he does. i'm actually amazed it is not bigger. there were 38% of the people polled think that president obama would be better on government spending? i mean, honestly i just don't have any explanation for how those 38% could believe that unless they're government workers. mitt romney should be pushing hard on this question of government spending, debt, deficits and make this much more of an idealogical argument, an idealogical case against the president. he is a big government liberal. he expanded government at every turn. he will expand government further in his second term. gregg: want to put one more graphic poll up for you. most voters, 73%, say they're aware of the 47% comment notoriously made by governor mitt romney. but look at this, 63% think he is right when he argues that too many people in america are dependent on the government. you have
romney leads by one. but on government spending, this is really amazing, mitt romney leads by 17 points. does he need to exploit that? >> well, yeah, i think he does. i'm actually amazed it is not bigger. there were 38% of the people polled think that president obama would be better on government spending? i mean, honestly i just don't have any explanation for how those 38% could believe that unless they're government workers. mitt romney should be pushing hard on this question of...
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romney did. he talked about it after it was over. >> we spoke about the greatest national security threat we faced. the world faces. iran with nuclear capabilities. we spoke about this assessment of where the red line ought to be drawn. my own views with regard to iran. he spoke of red line and gave a date, which was spring and summer of next year. he said he expected an attack by june of this year. they a offering an olive branch to the president. it's recognition on part of israelis that the chances of obama re-election are rising. >> i bant to say a word. somewhat defense of romney on the libya piece. everybody would go after him for exploiting the tragedy for the political purposes. he was in a no-win situation. >> yeah. i think if way to sol that is put it in broader context. iraq had 155,000 american troops and now has 150 troops in it. conduit for iran to syria. the region is going in chaos. and barack obama who ironically ran foreign policy to keep it out of the news the first term is get
romney did. he talked about it after it was over. >> we spoke about the greatest national security threat we faced. the world faces. iran with nuclear capabilities. we spoke about this assessment of where the red line ought to be drawn. my own views with regard to iran. he spoke of red line and gave a date, which was spring and summer of next year. he said he expected an attack by june of this year. they a offering an olive branch to the president. it's recognition on part of israelis...
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romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for american values. but the other candidate, the man behind the mask, he's offering us a budget that takes care of the rich but leaves everyone else in the dust. >> show me your budget. i'll tell you what you've got. let's take a look at their budget. why are they doing it? well, they are doing it because they have to. and here's the reason they have to. they cannot possibly, possibly continue to add to the tax cuts of the super wealthy. >> that's what is behind the romney mask. that's what the next 39 days to the election are all about. and a special thank you to our fake president and mitt romney for helping us to predic
romney. the obama campaign is hammering home who the real romney is and what he stands for. he's a candidate who has no problem writing off the country, something that this president refuses to do. >> i'm not fighting to create democrat or republican jobs, i'm creating jobs. i'm fighting to improve schools in the united states of america. i'm not fighting on behalf of rich values or poor values or 53% value. i'm fighting for american values. he's fighting for american values. but the...
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ory tel about mitt t romney is there is no story about mitt romney. the story they tell about barack obama is well he's always bad things. if you're trying to figure out well what is it that - what's the strategy here? how are we trying toin ts ra itorfi on their side. that's why they're so inefficient with their money. spending is a wreck. message is all over the place. that's why they're not having as big an impact and people thought they would. >> don't miss the unique take on politics and all the top stories on the el madow show at 9:00 eastern, the place for politics. >>> here's your "first look" at the other news going on around today. in utah, a dramatic rescue for a young deer that got trapped in a man hole earlier this week. poor guy. officers used a cinpeo lasso the spooked animal and hoist it to safety. the deer was then released back into the wild. >>> all right. beer drinkers may want to turn away for a mont. cases and cases of beer went from aovrnsemi that o higay took a turn too quickly. the stretch of highway was closed for three hours
ory tel about mitt t romney is there is no story about mitt romney. the story they tell about barack obama is well he's always bad things. if you're trying to figure out well what is it that - what's the strategy here? how are we trying toin ts ra itorfi on their side. that's why they're so inefficient with their money. spending is a wreck. message is all over the place. that's why they're not having as big an impact and people thought they would. >> don't miss the unique take on politics...
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the best attack ad on romney is mitt romney. to pick up on michael and michelle's point, what is romney going to come with in the campaign to have a good showing? he can't talk about taxes with tacks being the lowest they have been in 50 years. he can't talk about medicaid and medicare because their policies are unpopular. he can't talk about foreign policy, he doesn't have anything. the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he doesn't, what ammunition does he have to actually have a good showing? >> i'm told there are examples of elections turning on debates, president bush for example
the best attack ad on romney is mitt romney. to pick up on michael and michelle's point, what is romney going to come with in the campaign to have a good showing? he can't talk about taxes with tacks being the lowest they have been in 50 years. he can't talk about medicaid and medicare because their policies are unpopular. he can't talk about foreign policy, he doesn't have anything. the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has...
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he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign. welcome to the throuee of you. five days is all mitt romney has before the debate. the politico article everybody is talking about today say this isn't the chair or ho hum convention or the leaked video or distorted polls or the message or mormonism. it's mitt. does he have enough time for a real game change? >> you know, five days before the first debate, 40 days before election day people go around the country already are starting to vote early voting in a bunch of states across the country. it's unclear whether there's enough tim
he'll stand in as mitt romney. one thing we're reporting is both sides trying to lower expectations heading into the debate on wednesday, which is key for both candidates, alex. >> for themselves and increasing them for the other guy. that's what they're doing right now. thank you so much. let's bring in the political power panel. jonathan kapart, and chris cofinus and jackie gingrich kushman, author and daughter of newt gingrich and former adviser to her father's presidential campaign....
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romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as the moderator and obama will come after him. >> the way the rules work here i get 60 seconds. anderson -- >> you knew you had illegal -- >> would you please wait. >> with mitt romney, is there ever such a thing as a crisis averted? >> i think as people look at his record and imagine him debating obama, obama is going to laugh at him. >> you ask me an entirely different question. >> now alex is out today on vacation on the planet of jupiter but did leave behind a special gift we on behalf of alex wagner want to congratulate ben smith on reaching 100,000 twitter fo
romney, ryan, romney, ryan. there we go. >> as the hour that will determine his destiny grows closer, mitt romney must find clear answers. >> the first ground rule i would say to mitt is be who you are. >> i'm running for office for pete sake. i can't have illegals. >> it's a mistake to somehow be clever. >> i'm not a bomb thrower. rhetorically or literally. >> i'm mitt romney, and that's also my first name. >> he has to be prepared to defend himself as...
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romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make sure he gets his share of sound bites in the newscasts that follow. >> based on previous debate performances, how would you characterize governor romney's style versus the president's style? >> romney is good on the attack, i think. as i just indicated, i mean, when he needed to flash the knife against rick perry in that one debate i'm particularly thinking of, he really did it. he's good at that, and he's not going to back down. you know, a lot of this also comes down to interpersonal dynamics and how they play off each other an
romney is a pretty good debater. whoever in the clip said there that romney has had 20 or whatever it is recent debates, that's true. during the primaries when romney needed to deliver a big knockout punch to newt gingrich and to rick perry, he managed to do it, and he did it very aggressively. so he knows what he's doing up there. obama needs to be on his toes. you know, i just think he can anticipate most of what romney is going to say, but he needs to have a few zingers of his own to make...
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romney/ryan or four more years of obama/biden? >> romney is much funnier. and a robotic sense, he is great. >> i would said my job aside and prefer to have the country recover. i am hoping for a regime change. it is obviously -- cartoonists are in a position of where what is best for them is not necessarily best for the country. i think is all too important this time. that is why i want mitt romney. >> i agree with steve. from a philosophical point of view as an american, i would like mitt romney to win. as a conservative cartoonist, it is always easier to go after the guy you disagree with. >> in the you have any past people who are your favorites to drop? >> anytime somebody has a reputation for salacious behavior, it makes them rich targets for us. the bill clinton years were -- i got out of the office very early every day. that was back when i had a sick handicapped by the way. >> george w. bush was fun for me. he is great to drop. as the term progressed, i disagree with them on many more things. if you are a conservative and you have a conservative in
romney/ryan or four more years of obama/biden? >> romney is much funnier. and a robotic sense, he is great. >> i would said my job aside and prefer to have the country recover. i am hoping for a regime change. it is obviously -- cartoonists are in a position of where what is best for them is not necessarily best for the country. i think is all too important this time. that is why i want mitt romney. >> i agree with steve. from a philosophical point of view as an american, i...
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certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifia
certainly not mitt romney. we've got people stationed, men and women, stationed in afghanistan and they're not talking about the war. you did a great segment on that last night. >> at least a long segment. 68 -- >> for good reasons. >> 68,000 americans who are really incredibly talented, incredible resources for our country, people in the prime of their lives risking their lives every day right now and in 2004, in that presidential campaign, we were at war and george w. bush...
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swing state, a tough sell for romney. obama has a slim lead in north carolina, nevada, wider margin in new hampshire. if you come down here, we can see that currently, according to "the wall street journal"/nbc poll, barack obama leads in nevada 49% to 47%. he leads in new hampshire 51% to 44%, and in north carolina 48% to 46%. however, two of the three states, north carolina and nevada, both think that mitt romney is stronger on the economy. so that's one set of polls. now, we've got this other set of polls we want to show you very quickly, and this is from rasmussen, and he does -- scott rasmussen's group, rasmussenreports.com, they do a daily tracking poll. for a long time now, they've been showing this race as even. right now, they're saying -- and this gets updated daily, about 9:30 in the morning -- and they president obama and mitt romney both at 46% nationwide. and when leaners are included, it's tied at 48% apiece. and the swing state daily tracking poll, they also have this, and they have that tied as well, obam
swing state, a tough sell for romney. obama has a slim lead in north carolina, nevada, wider margin in new hampshire. if you come down here, we can see that currently, according to "the wall street journal"/nbc poll, barack obama leads in nevada 49% to 47%. he leads in new hampshire 51% to 44%, and in north carolina 48% to 46%. however, two of the three states, north carolina and nevada, both think that mitt romney is stronger on the economy. so that's one set of polls. now, we've got...